I don't know what to make of this
This site says to use the links at veiled4allah cautiously. What the hell does he mean by that? Which links? The ones to Muslim blogs? The ones to Islamic resources on the web?
Does anybody have any insight into this?
Important update and mea culpa: I want to thank brother John for suggesting that I contact the webmaster instead of just mouthing off and speculating. It turns out that one of the links on the page set off his anti-virus detector and so he wrote the caution as a reminder to himself.
Astighfirullah, I shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
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asalamu alaykum,
maybe that person really thinks you are a ninja and can cause serious damage
man, SV is scaring me sometimes too. if you can email that person who made the page, ask them in a nice way assumming you just don't know or understand, that's my advice.
asalamu alaykum
Posted by: John | April 21, 2003 07:41 AM
Asalamu alaykum,
do you have some explanation for this. I have faith in Islam. I just want to know if you have researched things like this, because you maybe understand how people with polemics(nonmuslims) would use it. Asalamu alaykum:
UMAYR B. `ADIYY'S JOURNEY TO KILL `ASMA' D. MARWAN She was of B. Umayyya b. Zayd. When Abu `Afak had been killed she displayed disaffection. Blaming Islam and its followers she said . . . .
When the apostle heard what she had said he said, "Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?" `Umayr b. `Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he [Muhammad] said, "You have helped God and His apostle, O `Umayr!"
From the Sirat Rasul Allah (A. Guilaume's translation "The Life of Muhammad") page 675, 676.
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`Asma' was the wife of Yazid Ibn Zayd Ibn Hisn al-Khatmi. She used to revile Islam, offend the prophet and instigate the (people) against him. She composed verses. Umayr Ibn Adi came to her in the night and entered her house. Her children were sleeping around her. There was one whom she was suckling.
He searched her with his hand because he was blind, and separated the child from her. He thrust his sword in her chest till it pierced up to her back. Then he offered the morning prayers with the prophet at al-Medina.
From Ibn Sa`d's Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, translated by S. Moinul Haq, volume 2, page 31.
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Abu Afak, a man of great age (reputedly 120 years) was killed because he lampooned Mohammad. The deed was done by Salem b. 'Omayr at the behest of the Prophet, who had asked, "Who will deal with this rascal for me?" The killing of such an old man moved a poetess, Asma b. Marwan, to compose disrespectful verses about the Prophet, and she too was assassinated.
In "23 Years; A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad", by Ali Dashti, (Mazda Press, 1994), Dashti also references the murders of Abu `Afak and `Asma' b. Marwan. He wrote (page 100):
Posted by: John | April 21, 2003 08:31 AM
I have not heard of any of those stories before; they do not appear in any of the biographical accounts that I have read. I am not familiar with any of the works that they are cited in or their authors.
Brother John, you need to ask a scholar about the soundness of the reports and their meaning. That is far beyond anything I am qualified to do.
Posted by: Al-Munaqabah | April 21, 2003 09:03 AM
thanks, had to ask. i never heard of it myself.
asalamu alaykum
Posted by: John | April 21, 2003 10:06 AM
well what do you know
believe me.
I did that last week too, assumed something good about another person but instead I had the wrong person. you get ticked off a lot less easy if you just assume good things or plainly don't assume anything
asalamu alaykum,
I came back to ask if anyone read "A History of God"(or maybe it is "the history..")? by karen armstrong?
Posted by: John | April 21, 2003 04:35 PM
did you ever notice it was impulsive, or addictive, going to sites like SV.
A waste of time or not a waste of time?
a bro in need of help
asalamu alaykum
Posted by: John | April 23, 2003 10:20 AM
Yeah, I've read "A History of God". It's generally sympathetic to Islam and has a lot of good information. Overall, I found Armstrong's analysis to sometimes be superficial, but the book is useful nonetheless. She's also written a book called "The Battle for God" which compares fundamentalism in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. This is an excellent book to put the much-talked-about Islamic fundamentalism in a larger context.
At one time I was quite addicted to SV but now I'm not so much anymore, al-hamdulillah. Now I think I'm addicted to blogs.
Posted by: Al-Munaqabah | April 23, 2003 11:24 AM
addiction, it seems to never end, it just seems to move from one medium
to the next. but as long as it is halal. but well, we all have
our strengths and weaknesses. I am trying to eliminate and limit
the mediums each time I encounter and realize new ones!
inshallah khayr.
asalamu alaykum
PS: get addicted to Allah!.. in a balanced way 'o course that He asks.
Posted by: John | April 23, 2003 12:34 PM