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are you a 'Muslim-speaking' individual?

Date: July 16, 2003 | 16 Jumada al-Awwal 1424 Hijriah
Subjects: humor
Muslim Wake Up reports:

Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, another Yale alum, is often regarded as the brightest of this season's crop. Not only is he smart, he is inclusive. Appearing on CNN's Late Edition last weekend, he called on the President to bring in more international troops to help in the military occupation of Iraq, "particularly Muslim-speaking and Arab-speaking Muslim troops." Kerry thus became the first among the presidential contenders to call specifically for Muslim-speaking troops, showing a keen sense of discernment. Unlike most people in the world, who view Islam as merely a spiritual path, Kerry understands the linguistic implications of the faith.
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Added: On a slightly more serious note, check out Can there be Muslim English?, about best practices for Muslims in explaining Islamic terms and concepts in English to non-Muslims and in transliterating Arabic words, and The Islaam of Double Vowels, which looks at some groups that use unnecessarily difficult-to-read transliterations of Arabic terms and some unfortunate attitudes that these groups also seem to share. I've noticed this myself, particularly on certain arch-Wahhabi sites although they are not the only offenders. Apparently it's supposed to make it easier to know how to pronounce the words, but it makes it bloody difficult to be able to read them.
~ Posted by Al-Muhajabah, a member of the reality-based community, at 10:25 PM

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Joel said: Total comments: 10   gold star

Subject: Re: are you a \

I speak Muslim: Allah! Koran!

See! I'm fluent!

~ Posted at July 16, 2003 10:49 PM | Comment Permalink
one of the top five commentors on this blog! Jonathan Edelstein said: Total comments: 91   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

Subject: Re: are you a \

I love Muslim Wake Up's dry sense of humor.


~ Posted at July 17, 2003 08:39 AM | Comment Permalink
umar said: Total comments: 2  

Subject: Re: are you a \

on the note of double wovels. though i believe it should strictly be used in transliteration purposes (for quran ayah for example and not general words)

but you know the chinese have developed pinyin input system so they can type in chinese using an english keyboard,, or learn english quickly..

so its not bad idea to have a standard for arabic transliteration given each symbol some exact meaning,, but until that standard is a standard,,, its all useless..

~ Posted at July 17, 2003 10:26 AM | Comment Permalink
jen said: Total comments: 2  

Subject: Re: are you a \

smile Every faith has some kind of linguistic implications. We don't see them as much in modern English but if you look at how things are literally translated in older dialects of languages, you'll see things like "God be with ye" instead of "good bye". My dad's family is Irish and the Irish equivalent of "hello" is "God greet you".

I think that it would be a blessing to the U.S. forces to have some soldiers who actually *understand* Islam and who can speak with the Iraqi people using terms of their faith, rather than people who know nothing about Islam or who only know what idiots like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell teach.

One of the things I tell people when they ask me why in the world a Lutheran seminarian would *want* to study Islam is that if I'm going to be *ANYWHERE* with a Muslim population, it would behoove me greatly to be able to talk to people and to understand what they're talking about. If nothing else, it gets some dialogue going.

~ Posted at July 18, 2003 06:58 PM | Comment Permalink
Bin Gregory said: Total comments: 11   gold star

Subject: Re: are you a \

Can there be Muslim English? was very good. The advice to avoid unusual vowel or consonant combinations was spot on, I just wish I'd read it sooner. I named my first child Muhammad Ridhwan, with the DH to indicate "dhod". I really regret it. Ridwan looks much cleaner, and an American is less likely to mangle it. A muslim ought to recognize the name and pronounce it right however it is spelled. ::sigh:: Next time around we went with Salihah - nothing special for the "Sod". Much better, in my humble opinion.

One small disagreement I had with the article was the occassional use of O and E, as in Mohammad. I think any arabic word can be rendered perfectly well with just A, I, and U for vowels. Jest mi ahpinyon...

~ Posted at July 20, 2003 02:24 AM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 996   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

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I agree with you about liking to use only A, I, and U. But I suppose its a matter of personal preference and taste.

~ Posted at July 20, 2003 03:49 PM | Comment Permalink

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