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On the Howard Dean thing: Historians who have looked at the peace process in the Middle East have noted that all Presidents have started out strongly pro-Israeli and then drifted toward middle positions over the course of their term. I think even President Bush fits this mold. So I don't think we should take Dean's statements here as definitive for what he would do in office. Still, it would be nice to not have to put up with the learning curve, and if Kucinich's position is different people to whom that is a primary issue should consider the effect supporting him might have on opening up the discussion.Orientation Note: I'm still undecided.
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That's very true and that's why Dean is still my second choice. I would say that Kucinich's position is a decisive factor for me in favor of him, but I'm not rejecting candidates on the basis of it.I must admit that I'm straining to see any real move towards a middle position by Bush. As in other areas, he says a lot of things, but the reality of his policies seems to have little to do with his words.
I used to be more sympathetic to the Republican party, but the last two years have changed all that. The Bush Administration seems to have sold its soul to right-wing ideologues. Its warmongering abroad and fearmongering and erosion of civil liberties at home go against principles that I hold dear. I also believe that they are contrary to to the American ideals of liberty and justice. I love my country, I do not love my government.
My advice to you is to think about what direction you want America to go in, then look for the candidate that seems most likely to lead us in that direction. If your candidate seems unlikely to win (as mine does; I'm well aware that Kucinich is the long shot to end all long shots), then come up with second and third choices that you would support.
Above all, don't go by the behavior of partisans for this or that candidate at discussion forums and blog comments sections. Judge the candidate by what he himself (or she, in the case of Moseley Braun) says. You're not electing the candidate's supporters, you're electing him
Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
Bush has gone from endorsing whatever Sharon wants to do to expressing concern about targeted assassinations; he has gone from sending Powell and low-level diplomats to sending his personal agent, Condoleezza Rice. Sharon didn't just wake up in the morning and decide to pull up a couple of settlements. He's not quite as far to the middle as Bush I got, but there's definitely been a change from his first year in office.Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
Actually, I remember going through a lot of the same things back in 2001. There was talk of Palestinian statehood, actual criticism of some of Sharon's counter-productive policies, and the like. At most, I would say that Bush has gone back to where he was in the first year after having gone to an extreme more recently.I'm afraid that I am deeply pessimistic about the chances of anything getting better. All sorts of pretty words are spoken but Shraon continues the settlements and the closures and the Palestinians continue the suicide bombings and when the dust settles, we're back where we started or even worse off.
In my opinion, Sharon's policies will never work. The harder he cracks down, the more violence the Palestinians will give back in return. If Bush is genuinely committed to peace he will realize this. If all he's committed to is Israel's security (which is not the same thing as peace), then he'll continue as he's doing.
I place most of the blame on Christian Zionists like Falwell, Robertson, and their ilk. They seem to be adopting the positions of the furthest right factions in Israel, like that of Benny Elon, and they are a huge constituency that Bush needs to satisfy. As long as Bush thinks he needs those 30 million born again Christian votes, he's going to have a hard time resisting what the fundamentalist leaders like Falwell, etc, are telling him to do.
So I really don't hold out much hope.
Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
SalamIt was your comments on the futility of perma-linking blogger, and your plug on the MT Jihad that helped me to finally decide to switch from blogger
I went one step ahead, bought some webspace and a domain, and voila.. here we are!
Thanks v. much for helping me speed up what I knew I should've gotten round to a long time ago since I decided blogging was a worthwhile hobby and interest.
Now.. to learn to use this responsibly
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I recognize that person. He spent about four months spamming an Islamic discussion board with messages like that forty to fifty times a day. They finally succeeded in banning and blocking him. Now he goes around to Muslim blogs and posts the same garbage. He is not interested in sincere debate; that became obvious a long time ago. If I were you I would delete his comments and ban his IP if you can.Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
ok. jazaki Allah khairanbut for future comments like this, what is the best web sites that we can send people asking questions like him
did you read my last comment to him ?
Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
I've been busy since I last posted, but I went to check out your comment. Mashallah, you do an excellent job of responding to him in the best manner. I would personally not direct him to any discussion forum because of his past behavior spamming such sites. Also, I don't think that discussion forums are really the best place to direct someone who actually is serious about learning Islam. Discussion forums are places for young Muslims to chat. They may not be knowledgeable enough to answer questions or give da'wah.It would be better to direct them to informational sites. Some good ones include Islam: The Modern Religion, Jannah.org which you have already mentioned, and similar places. If they have specific questions, it is best to refer them to a scholar. Some sites that take questions are Islam Q&A, Understanding Islam, and Islam Online.
There are other sites as well, these are just the first ones to come to my mind.
May Allah SWT reward your efforts!
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I had to switch my archives around. The post about the Kuala Lumpur AIDS conference is now here.Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
Thanks. I've updated the link in the blog entry.Subject: Re: Muslim voices 6/14 to 6/22
you know how to pick the best one,, and an important issue at that,, thanks a lot