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playing the market

Date: April 20, 2003 | 17 Safar 1424 Hijriah
Subjects: blogs, fiqh
Recently, I came across BlogShares, a fantasy stock market where you can trade shares in blogs. Some person I've never heard of bought up all of the public shares in my blog. Which I guess is flattering to me or something, that somebody thinks it's a good investment, but it doesn't seem like much fun for anybody else.

BlogShares doesn't list any outgoing links from my site, which means that nobody I link to is getting anything from me. The reason for this problem is that BlogShares only looks on the Al-Muhajabah's Islamic Blogs main index page and not on the veiled4allah page, which is where all my links are located. This is a problem I have with a lot of these systems that track links on blogs, because I have a non-standard set-up. I submitted the URL for veiled4allah to BlogShares as an alternate but it apparently only counts inbound links to that page and not outgoing links on it. Sigh.

Anyway, according to the profile page for my blog, the current valuation is $6214.25. The price of a share, if any were available, is $2.22. I suppose it could be worse. tongue

I wondered if stock trading is permissible according to Islam so I did some searching with Google. There is a general agreement of the scholars that owning shares in a company is lawful as long as the company is engaged in lawful business. A fatwa from conservative Saudi scholar Shaykh Muhammad al-Munajjid sets out some basic rules about what types of companies are lawful for investment and what are not. There are a growing number of companies that screen stocks and create indexes of companies that are Islamically acceptable.

But there is a second issue and that is trading in stocks. Speculation (gharar) and gambling are prohibited in Islam. To what extent does playing the stock market involve speculation? There isn't any consensus on this. Speculation and Gambling provides a good overview of some of the issues involved. Status of the Stock Exchange takes a dim view of most stock trading. Muslim Investor outlines the areas of concern but clearly feels that it is possible for Muslims to lawfully invest and trade in stocks, since it aims to be a resource for helping them to do so.

It seems that it's best to be cautious unless you're pretty sure of what you're doing and what the risks and benefits are.

Update: I sold 500 shares in my own blog (the owner automatically gets 1000) in order to put some out on the market. So on the off chance that you're interested, you can now buy shares of Al-Muhajabah's Islamic Blogs, for only $2.84 a share tongue
~ Posted by Al-Muhajabah, a member of the reality-based community, at 04:23 PM

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one of the top five commentors on this blog! PG said: Total comments: 64   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

A lot of the weblog counters are limited in what they can show; for example, Eric Alterman's msnbc weblog Altercation has multiple possible addresses, but the ecosystems only count one, www.altercation.msnbc.com, which means that people who link to him using alternative addresses are not counted and he is pitifully low in the ranking.

As for the issue of whether the stock market is OK for Muslims, we used to call my dad's playing of the market his "gambling addiction."

I think we took that view, especially in the mid to late 1990s before the tech bubble burst, because we felt that he was too involved in the day-to-day -- nearly hour-to-hour -- movements of the market. I remember when we visited Italy, and he was very good until the 4th day of the trip, when we stopped to get gelato in Rome. He found a pay phone and spent over an hour on the phone with his stock broker.

I suppose the upside of this is that now my dad is good friends with his broker; my parents even went to Las Vegas (speaking of gambling!) to celebrate the broker's 40th birthday with him.

The point of this rambling is that I see a difference between long term investment in a company, and the kind of daytrading a lot of people were doing a few years ago. To put money into a company because you have researched it and believe in it is one thing. I own stock in the company for which I work, because it seems to have a good business model and I figure that maybe if I have an investment, I'll actually do some work for the company ;-)

But to look at various companies like they are racehorses that you are interested in only for a short time, hoping to see them spike up, and then you try to pull out before they go down, is very close to gambling.

I'm glad to see that my dad is now doing his investing more in partnerships with people he knows, developing real estate or funding private companies that are not on the stock market. I think that form of investing is the kind that helps the economy actually grow, instead of giving us the kind of false hope that we saw with the 11,000 Dow.

I also like that the kind of conscientious funds that I saw advertised in the UK a few years ago are now becoming more prominent in the US.

There was a funny bit in an ER episode a few years ago, wherein Jerry the intake guy had a broker asking him how he wanted to invest. At first he was all gungho for the social conscience funds that didn't own any companies that made harmful products. Then he looked at the returns on those virtuous funds versus those on the ExxonMobil, Philip Morris, McDonald's kind of funds, and changed his mind.

~ Posted at April 20, 2003 04:51 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 996   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

PG, thanks for sharing about your family. I agree with you that long-term investments are OK and can be a good thing, its the speculative trading for trading's sake that leads to trouble.

Maybe I'll invest my fantasy money in a few good blogs. Due to my financial circumstances, BlogShares is the only stock market I can play right now!

~ Posted at April 20, 2003 06:46 PM | Comment Permalink
Suzzy said: Total comments: 14   gold star

lol, that is so cute, I got to do it!!

~ Posted at April 21, 2003 10:25 AM | Comment Permalink
one of the top five commentors on this blog! Zack Ajmal said: Total comments: 112   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

A-M: Your stock is #221 on BlogShares. It's doing pretty good.

Unfortunately, BlogShares doesn't recognize my blog.

~ Posted at April 26, 2003 08:44 PM | Comment Permalink

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