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Islamic vegetarianism

Date: April 19, 2003 | 16 Safar 1424 Hijriah
Subjects: fiqh
Vegetarianism is not required in Islam. However, a number of Muslims feel that vegetarianism is the most moral course for a Muslim today.

The reasoning is similar to that of Islamic non-violence activists. Islam permits war and it permits eating meat. However, Islam sets rules and limits in regard to war and in regard to slaughtering animals. Life is sacred, both human and animal, and can only be taken under certain conditions (the conditions, obviously, are different for taking human life and taking animal life). Islamic non-violence activists argue that modern warfare is unable to meet the conditions of Islamic law and therefore Muslims must refrain from it. Islamic vegetarianism advocates argue that modern methods of raising animals for food do not meet the conditions of Islamic law and therefore Muslims should refrain from eating animals and animal products.

Some Muslims in the West are partly or wholly vegetarian because it's difficult for them to find halal (lawfully slaughtered) meat. I fall into this category. However, Islamic vegetarianism advocates go beyond this. As I understand it, their view is that halal butchers and others who provide slaughtering services get the animals from farms that do not treat the animals in accordance with Islamic rules. Sister Elham summarizes the argument:

Excerpt from Shaykh Hamza Yusuf article about 'The Sunnah and health' "…whenever the Qur’an mentions the word halal, which indicates what is permissible, it mentions tayyib, which means pure, immediately after it. What is meant by permissible and pure is that the food is not simply good to eat but it is a morally sound food, its source was ethically sound. It also has the meaning in the Arabic language of 'lawful', 'pure', 'esteemed'…Something that is pure and innocent is also Tayyib…Thus, the Qur’an commands us to eat 'pure and permissible food". (bold – mine)

What struck me with this excerpt was the question that how can the meat we eat be morally sound ( a necessary condition for something to be halal), when the animal has been tortured (contrary to Prophet (PBUH) teachings)? This meat is also impure because of the additions of unnatural growth hormones.
(Blogger is still screwing up permalinks, so scroll down to her second entry of April 11).

In other words, even "halal meat" is not really halal and Muslims should refrain from eating it.
~ Posted by Al-Muhajabah, a member of the reality-based community, at 11:29 AM

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Elham said: Total comments: 11   gold star

I've heard conflicting opinions about whether kosher meat is halal or not. What do you think?

Anyways, Thanks for the link smile

~ Posted at April 19, 2003 01:59 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 1006   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

I've heard conflicting opinions too and to be honest I'm not really sure what's the most correct position. Some foods are kosher that are not halal; for instance there are kosher wines. I also understand that some foods may be kosher but contain ingredients that are not halal. The whole area of halal and haram ingredients is one I don't know a lot about.

It seems to me that just as far as slaughtering goes, if a halal animal was slaughtered according to kosher rules, then it should be halal because the meat of the Jews and the Christians is halal for Muslims. Calling most meat in the west "the meat of the Christians" is rather a stretch since religious principles aren't involved. But meat slaughtered according to Jewish religious rules would seem to be what is meant by "the meat of the Jews". And Allah SWT knows best.

~ Posted at April 19, 2003 02:21 PM | Comment Permalink
Laura said: Total comments: 7  

There are a couple halal meat sellers in San Francisco. Since I am an outright meat-addict, I have tried to eat only at restaurants that use halal, or at least free-range products - not only are they better for the animals, but they just taste better, IMO. But that is a lot easier to do in the Bay Area than other places in the US.

I also know food additives are also a problem for those who keep kosher or halal, as sometimes they can be pork- or other haram-ingredient-derived.

~ Posted at April 19, 2003 05:38 PM | Comment Permalink
nadhra said: Total comments: 5  

I asked my friends once, who is studying in Al Azhar University, whether it is halal or not to eat a chicken that has not beedn fed with its natural diet. He said as long as there is no concrete fatwa or hadith that make is haram, it is halal. As for chicken, who eats worms, there is a hadtih that said Rasulullah ate chicken. So he said it is halal.

I asked that to him because the chicken vendor here, in Minneapolis, supply chickesn from Canada and it has label on it, "hand slaughtered zabihah way & vegetarian fed". My friend, who is an alternative religion follower, said her Highest Priestess does not allow eating farm animal because they are fed with things that are unnatural to them. And also becaus animal has lower "karma" and does not allow you to reach the higher self.

And Islam said its halal to eat zabihah meat. Although , I must admit, the chicken here and the chicken back home, taste SO different. smile

~ Posted at April 20, 2003 02:07 PM | Comment Permalink
one of the top five commentors on this blog! PG said: Total comments: 64   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

I ought to be an ethical vegetarian, as I do object to the practices of agribusiness that make animals miserable. I don't think animals have a right not to be eaten; after all, I wouldn't say a shark had done something wrong if it ate a surfer, so why should it be wrong for the surfer to eat the shark?

However, animals don't torture their food before eating it -- keeping it small spaces, preventing it from having a normal social life, feeding it unnatural food and causing it to have sizes that render its life processes painful or impossible (cows whose calves are larger than they can deliver, chickens whose breasts are too large for them to move around).

I think humans should strive to be at least as ethical as animals that have no concept of morality.

Unfortunately, meat coming from animals raised in humane conditions can be hard to find and somewhat expensive. The latter is not so much a problem as the former. It's hard to find restaurants that sell only humanely- raised meat, although the McDonald's owned Mexican chain Chipotle does do that with both chicken and pork (for those not Muslim or Jewish) products.

I suppose I am being lazy and waiting for society to have the same opinion as I do, instead of proactively supporting only those who already do. Very bad :-(

~ Posted at April 20, 2003 06:37 PM | Comment Permalink
abdul haq said: Total comments: 2  

i wonder if naive analogy of your arguments of non-violence, feminism, vegetarianism can be drawn to likes of arguments of my auntie over the veil "I don't wanna wear the veil cos it will offend the onlookers,,, and Allah said to do dawah in the best manner (i.e. look appropriate by a kufr standard being helpful for dawah)" naive it may sound but at the bottom of it, does it soud familiar

~ Posted at April 27, 2003 07:36 AM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 1006   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

Another brother also took this type to mean that Muslims should refrain from things "out of fear of the West". Quite frankly, I find that a ludicrous assertion. The only thing I am advocating is fear of Allah, fear to take the life that He has forbidden. I have responded to that claim at length here.

BTW, I wear full niqab in the West. So much for my fear to offend their sensibilities.

~ Posted at April 27, 2003 11:19 AM | Comment Permalink
abdul haq said: Total comments: 2  

i never said fear of west, i meant fear of allah when i referred the reason for not wearing the veil being for sake of dawah..... i.e. in fear of transgressing one lil issue, you take out a big issue.. like saying "lets not marry because we may fall in fitnah and Allah has set clear limits" please clarify as it seams i might have misunderstood with this regard ?!?!?

~ Posted at April 27, 2003 02:09 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 1006   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

Brother, please read the discussion at the link I provided you, as I have already answered your question when it was asked by someone else. There is a huge difference between refraining from an action for fear that it will cause the death of an innocent person and refraining from an action for fear of "offending kufr sensibilities". Killing innocent people is prohibited and should be avoided. Surely this point is clear enough. I don't know why it seems so difficult to understand. I am also tired of being accused of watering down my religion for fear of offending kufr sensibilities. I have never stated any such thing.

~ Posted at April 27, 2003 03:18 PM | Comment Permalink

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