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reality check

Date: January 27, 2003 | 24 Dhu-l-Qidah 1423 Hijriah
Subjects: antiwar
This is what war is about. It's not a video game.

Note: The picture is gruesome and not for the squeamish. That's the point.
~ Posted by Al-Muhajabah, a member of the reality-based community, at 11:17 PM

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Suzzy said: Total comments: 14   gold star

Ya Allah. You know sister, not to be anything, but you should really warn people before you put a link up like that. Some people (like myself) are very sensitive to things like that.

And Allah knows best.

~ Posted at January 28, 2003 05:35 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 996   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

That was supposed to be the point, but I've added a warning notice. Thanks for mentioning it, sis.

~ Posted at January 28, 2003 06:12 PM | Comment Permalink
umair said: Total comments: 51   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

oh my God! we never see this stuff on the news and this is what people really need to see before deciding about war...thanks for posting this!

~ Posted at January 28, 2003 06:44 PM | Comment Permalink
Idrissia said: Total comments: 1  

Asalaamu alaykum, Thank you for posting that sis. Jazakallah khairun.

~ Posted at January 29, 2003 06:01 AM | Comment Permalink
ken said: Total comments: 5  

ssm th pctr ws f "tstd" rq sldrs. wndr f ny f thm wr nvlvd n gssng 10,000 Krdsh vllgrs. thght th pctr shwng vllg f Krdsh mn, wmn nd chldrn lyng dd n th strts f thr vllg, bltd, hvng sffrd hrrbl dth frm psn gs, md ths n lk tm by cmprsn.
By th wy, th Krdsh cvlns ddn't hv th chnc t fght bck.
Jst lttl fd fr thght.
Kn



~ Posted at January 30, 2003 08:22 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 996   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

Ken, please see my response to your other comment as well. I've included a link for you to read.

I'd also appreciate it if you would read the following article about the gassing of the Kurds: America didn't seem to mind poison gas. The gassing you refer to occurred in 1987 and 1988 while Saddam Hussein was still a client of the United States and the United States was arming him with weapons, including chemical and biological weapons, to use against Iran. The U.S. also helped direct world attention away from what had happened.

The reason I mention this is not to excuse this crime against humanity - dear God, no - but to provide some context that you, as usual, seem to be unaware of.

I also notice that once again you seem to ascribe to a policy of "it's OK to respond to a war crime with a war crime". We don't just massacre some whole group of people because some of them committed a crime. We investigate, find out which ones are guilty, put them on trial, and punish them. Anything else kills the innocent along with the guilty. Is that really what you're endorsing here?

~ Posted at January 30, 2003 10:44 PM | Comment Permalink
moderator Al-Munaqabah said: Total comments: 996   gold stargold stargold stargold stargold star

Here's another article about the gassing of the Kurds. This one disagrees with the previous one about whether the U.S. was "directing world attention away" by claiming Iranian involvement. In fact, the main argument made in this editorial is that the gassing of the Kurds was not an act of genocide on his own people by Saddam Hussein but was a war crime of genocide by Iran against the civilian population of its enemy. War Crime or Act of War? (NY Times link; registration required).

This leaves open a lot of questions. Assuming that U.S. intelligence has proved that Iran did it (as the author claims), why in the world is Bush claiming that Iraq did it and using this as a justification for making war on Iraq? The moral depravity of such an action is shocking. On the other hand, maybe Bush knows that the intelligence report is not correct, in which case U.S. intelligence has made up a horrific lie against Iran in order to direct world attention away from what Iraq did when it was our client. This is what the first article alleges.

No matter how you look at it, either Iran or Iraq is being slandered with accusations of genocide for political gain. God, that is sick.

~ Posted at January 31, 2003 08:25 AM | Comment Permalink
bobdog said: Total comments: 1  

This ain't about who's right or wrong. Just figure out whose side you're on. This ain't about whose wrong or right. So pick a side and join the fight. If you don't agree with me, you must be the enemy. If you don't see what I see, you must be the enemy. From London to Dresden, from Saigon to Tehran, from the Vatican to Jerusalem, from the Taliban to the Pentagon, from Belfast to Belgrade, from Beirut to Baghdad, from Kuta to Kenya, from Mecca to Hiroshima. It's a God eat God world.

~ Posted at March 22, 2003 11:25 AM | Comment Permalink

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